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WEBSTER FINANCIAL CORP (WBS)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q4 2024 GAAP EPS was $1.01 and adjusted EPS was $1.43, with net interest margin expanding to 3.39% on balance sheet growth and securities repositioning; adjusted ROATCE was 17.73% and adjusted ROAA 1.27% .
  • Deposit and loan growth continued: deposits reached $64.8B (+0.4% q/q) and loans $52.5B (+1.1% q/q); loan-to-deposit ratio rose to 81.1% .
  • Credit costs elevated: provision was $63.5M and net charge-offs were $60.9M (0.47% of average loans), driven largely by traditional office and healthcare services exposures; allowance coverage remained 1.31% of loans .
  • 2025 outlook: loans and deposits to grow 4–5% EOP, NII $2.45–$2.50B (non-FTE; add ~$55M for FTE), expenses $1.39–$1.41B, efficiency 45–47%, effective tax rate ~21%, CET1 target ~11%; NIM guided to 3.35–3.40% (raised from ~3.30% prior commentary) .
  • Potential stock catalysts: raised NIM guidance, strong Q1 margin expected, capital return optionality in 2025 (buybacks) if loan growth and regulatory backdrop align .

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Net interest income rose $19M q/q on higher earning assets and modest NIM expansion; deposit costs declined 16 bps in the quarter .
  • Noninterest income benefited from a large direct investment gain and positive CVA swing; adjusted noninterest income was $109M (~$95M excluding one-offs), indicating resilient underlying activity .
  • Funding profile remained differentiated: diversified deposit growth in HSA, Ametros (to >$1B from ~$800M at acquisition), digital consumer, and commercial (e.g., 1031 exchanges) .
  • Management raised 2025 NIM guide to 3.35–3.40% and expects a very strong Q1 margin, citing deposit repricing playbook and securities repositioning .
  • Quote: “We are proactively investing…to improve our data and analytics capabilities…prepare Webster for a large bank regulatory regime…allow the bank to operate more nimbly” .

What Went Wrong

  • Credit costs elevated: provision of $63.5M matched $60.9M in net charge-offs; NPLs rose to 0.88% of loans, with office and healthcare services driving losses .
  • Tangible book value per share fell to $32.95 from $33.26 on AOCI impact; available-for-sale unrealized losses increased to $712.9M q/q; HTM unrealized losses $991.2M (not reflected on balance sheet) .
  • Efficiency ratio, while strong, ticked up q/q to 44.80% on higher incentive accruals, seasonal benefit costs, and a charitable contribution; adjusted expenses rose to $340M .
  • Prior commentary on NIM near ~3.30% into 2025 was revised; while the new guide is higher, the change highlights sensitivity to deposit mix and added long-term debt in 2H25 .

Financial Results

MetricQ4 2023Q3 2024Q4 2024
Revenue ($USD Millions)$647.6 $661.0
Diluted EPS ($)$1.05 $1.10 $1.01
Adjusted EPS ($)$1.34 $1.43
Net Interest Income ($USD Millions)$571.0 $589.9 $608.5
Noninterest Income ($USD Millions)$63.8 $57.7 $52.5
Provision for Credit Losses ($USD Millions)$36.0 $54.0 $63.5
Net Charge-offs ($USD Millions)$34.0 $35.4 $60.9
NIM (%)3.42 3.36 3.39
Efficiency Ratio (%)43.04 45.49 44.80
Loans & Leases ($USD Billions)$50.7 $51.9 $52.5
Deposits ($USD Billions)$60.8 $64.5 $64.8
Loan-to-Deposit Ratio (%)83.5 80.5 81.1
CET1 Ratio (%)11.11 11.23 11.50

Segment breakdown (Operating revenue and key components, Q4 2024 vs Q4 2023):

SegmentNet Interest Income ($K)Noninterest Income ($K)Operating Revenue ($K)Noninterest Expense ($K)Pre-tax, Pre-provision N/R ($K)
Commercial Banking (Q4 2023 → Q4 2024)351,942 → 330,392 32,711 → 41,026 384,653 → 371,418 97,299 → 106,762 287,354 → 264,656
Healthcare Financial Services (Q4 2023 → Q4 2024)78,036 → 95,185 20,224 → 25,140 98,260 → 120,325 41,947 → 56,672 56,313 → 63,653
Consumer Banking (Q4 2023 → Q4 2024)213,913 → 202,165 27,426 → 26,969 241,339 → 229,134 116,413 → 119,123 124,926 → 110,011

Key KPIs:

KPIQ4 2023Q3 2024Q4 2024
Adjusted ROATCE (%)19.83 17.28 17.73
Adjusted ROAA (%)1.22 1.27
AFS Unrealized Losses ($USD Millions)$708.7 $486.1 $712.9
HTM Unrealized Losses ($USD Millions, not recorded on BS)$810.2 $677.0 $991.2
Tangible Book Value/Share ($)$32.39 $33.26 $32.95
NPLs/Loans (%)0.41 0.82 0.88
Allowance/Loans (%)1.25 1.32 1.31
Allowance/NPLs (%)303.39 161.60 149.47

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
Net Interest Margin (%)FY 2025~3.30 (prior commentary) 3.35–3.40 Raised
NII ($USD Billions, non-FTE)FY 2025N/A$2.45–$2.50 (add ~$0.055 FTE) New
Loans Growth (%) (EOP)FY 2025N/A4–5 New
Deposits Growth (%) (EOP)FY 2025N/A4–5 New
Noninterest Income ($USD Millions)FY 2025N/A$370–$390 New
Expenses ($USD Millions)FY 2025N/A$1,390–$1,410; +$15–$20 run-rate for Cat-4 prep New
Efficiency Ratio (%)FY 2025N/A45–47 New
Effective Tax Rate (%)FY 2025~21 ~21 Maintained
CET1 Target (%)Near-term11 (near-term) 11 (near-term) Maintained
Deposit Beta (cycle down, %)2025~45% cycle-to-date (up-cycle) ~30% terminal (down-cycle assumption) Lowered vs up-cycle

Q4 2024 quarterly guidance (from Q3 call) vs actual:

MetricQ4 2024 Guidance (from Q3 call)Q4 2024 ActualOutcome
NII ($USD Millions, non-FTE)$590–$600 $608.5 Above
Adjusted Noninterest Income ($USD Millions)$85–$90 ~$95 ex one-offs; $109 adjusted reported Above (ex one-offs)
Adjusted Expenses ($USD Millions)~$335 $340.4 total (adjusted $330.6) In-line (adjusted)
Efficiency Ratio (%)Mid-40s 44.80 In-line

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q2 2024, Q3 2024)Current Period (Q4 2024)Trend
NIM trajectory & asset sensitivityExpect exit NIM mid-3.30s; neutralized rate sensitivity via hedges & securities; Q3 spot ~3.31% and Q4 NIM ~3.32% into 2025 Raised FY25 NIM guide to 3.35–3.40; very strong Q1 margin expected; deposit costs moving down Improving
Deposits & betasCycle-to-date deposit beta ~44–45%; interLINK reprices with Fed; CD repricing tailwinds in 2H Terminal beta ~30% for down-cycle; 16 bps q/q cost decline; playbook after cuts on consumer/commercial portfolios Positive
CRE office exposureOffice balances ~$950M; NPL uptick from 4 loans; reserves raised ~$10M; securitization to reduce CRE concentration Office exposure down to < $825M; 60% of Q4 charge-offs from office/healthcare; metrics improving; more natural resolution, paydowns/payoffs Stabilizing
Credit outlookProvision tied to migration in office/healthcare; normalized annualized CO 25–30 bps expected Underlying migration moderating; mid-2025 credit inflection expected; normalized CO 25–30 bps with quarterly volatility Moderating
HSA/Ametros growthHSA deposit wins; Ametros ramp; new investment platform; Cigna renewal HSA grew deposits +$800M FY; Ametros deposits >$1B; digital channels accelerating Strong
Sponsor finance/private creditJV with Marathon announced; private credit competition muted growth JV expected live in 2Q; not in guidance; sponsor pipeline stronger; activity improving Improving pipeline
Category 4 readiness & opexPreparing for $100B category; restructuring to free ~$17M run-rate; expenses mid-40% efficiency 2025 incremental $15–$20M; total $40–$60M multi-year; investing in data/controls/treasury management Investing
Capital returnCET1 to 11% by YE; buybacks considered post visibility Likely capital return in 2025 absent outsized loan growth/M&A; target CET1 11% near-term, 10.5% LT Optionality

Management Commentary

  • Strategy: “Investments…to improve our data and analytics capabilities…prepare Webster for a large bank regulatory regime, but will also allow the bank to operate more nimbly, discover new pockets of opportunity and earlier mitigation of risk” .
  • Funding differentiation: “We grew deposits in each of our differentiated business lines…loan-to-deposit ratio just over 80%…enhancing deposit availability to partner depository institutions” .
  • Credit view: “Despite a higher level of charge-offs…underlying credit migration trends moderating…mid-2025 inflection point on overall credit metrics” .
  • NIM guide: “We now believe that our NIM for 2025 will be in the range of 3.35% to 3.40%…repositioning adds about $18M to NII in 2025” .
  • Capital return: “More likely than not to be in a position to return capital to shareholders during 2025” .

Q&A Highlights

  • Margin trajectory: NIM for FY25 guided to 3.35–3.40%; Q1 margin “very strong”; deposit repricing playbook after each cut; terminal deposit beta ~30% through two cuts .
  • Rate sensitivity: Two cuts vs no cuts are “plus or minus $10M” on NII; positioned fairly neutral; more sensitive to long-term rates .
  • Capital allocation: CET1 near-term target 11%; likelihood of buybacks in 2025 if loan growth doesn’t absorb capital; ability to both grow and return capital .
  • Credit details: Q4 net charge-offs >$60M, ~60% office/healthcare; office charge-offs ~$15M and healthcare ~$20M; office book down to ~$824M via payoffs/paydowns (no sale charges) .
  • JV & growth: Marathon JV to be live in 2Q; not embedded in guidance; potential upside to loan balances/investment income .
  • Geography & business mix: No branch expansion; continued focus on national businesses (ABL, equipment finance, public sector, sponsor) .

Estimates Context

  • Wall Street consensus (S&P Global) for Q4 2024 EPS and revenue was requested but unavailable due to SPGI daily request limit. As a result, we cannot provide a beat/miss assessment versus consensus for this quarter [SPGI request error].
  • Given elevated adjusted EPS ($1.43) alongside stronger-than-guided NII and adjusted noninterest income, sell-side models may need to reflect improved NIM trajectory (3.35–3.40% FY25) and deposit cost trajectory, while embedding ongoing credit normalization and Category 4 ramp opex .

Values would normally be retrieved from S&P Global.

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Raised NIM guide and strong Q1 margin set a favorable earnings trajectory despite a neutral rate stance; securities repositioning provides ~$18M NII uplift in 2025 .
  • Diversified deposit engines (HSA, Ametros, digital consumer, commercial) underpin funding cost declines and support loan growth with an ~81% loan-to-deposit ratio .
  • Credit normalization remains the base case (25–30 bps annualized CO), with office and healthcare services still the primary risk pockets; management expects a mid-2025 credit inflection .
  • 2025 outlook is balanced: loans/deposits +4–5% EOP, NII $2.45–$2.50B (non-FTE), expenses $1.39–$1.41B, efficiency 45–47%, tax ~21%; incremental Category 4 opex $15–$20M (total $40–$60M over several years) .
  • Capital return optionality is rising; buybacks likely in 2025 absent outsized organic growth or tuck-ins in healthcare verticals (Ametros/HSA) .
  • Near-term trading: watch for Q1 margin strength and deposit cost progression; medium-term thesis: deposit franchises and neutralized rate sensitivity drive sustained ROATCE in mid/high teens, with credit stabilization and capital returns as catalysts .

Additional Q4 2024 Press Releases

  • Earnings release announcement (Jan 7, 2025) .
  • Prime lending rate lowered to 7.50% (Dec 18, 2024) .
  • Dividends declared (Jan 29, 2025): common dividend $0.40 per share, preferred series details .

All financials and commentary cross-referenced to 8-K Exhibit 99.1 and the Q4 2024 earnings call transcript .